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earthdark
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:11 am Post subject: Common codecs/formats that should be in a codec pack? |
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I know there's a Nimo pack with every codec out know to man but uhh it's a bit on the overkill side so I've made a codecpack for myself + friends that contains just the neccesities. I have the folllowing so far:
mpg4c32.dll - "old school mpeg4" support from the SmR patch days
divxc32.dll and divxc32f.dll - the original DivX 3.11 files (lm and fm)
divx.dll - current DivX 4.12 release
huffyuv.dll - Huffyuv loseless codec for encoders
vfcodec.dll - VFAPI reader codec, also for encoders
divxa32.acm - DivX audio from 3.11 days
l3codeca.acm - mp3 decoding/encoding
and few files ripped from WinDVD for mpeg2 viewing in WMP, and some directshow filters for the above files.
Is there any other must have codec/file that I should include? |
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Keikai
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Joined: 18 Feb 2002 Posts: 178 Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Actually I did something similar for my friends a few weeks ago. Mine was similar although I left out one or two of those codecs and included the following non-video codecs:
dvobsub
mmswitch
ac-3 audio pack
Since you seem to be concentrating on video codecs you might not be interested in those, but I thought I'd mention them.
I also included Sasami2k and BSPlayer because each had some capabilities people might need from time to time. I find between those two and WMP most bases are covered. |
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earthdark
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 73
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:08 am Post subject: |
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mmm, I grabbed an ac3 audio filter but I haven' an idea what mmswitch is and I'm not really a fan of softsubs. :P
Eventually, I'm just gonna upload the install pack (a bit over 2 megs right now) to a server and just link it on the ampeg homepage. (shamless plug) |
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Keikai
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Info on mmswitch is here: http://www.morgan-multimedia.com/mmswitch/
It's a handy DShow filter that allows people to encode a single AVI with multiple audio tracks and then choose which one to play from the player. It's a good choice now that DX8.1 breaks the "Graphedit Method" of multiple audio tracks. From an encoding standpoint it doesn't particularly interest me since I don't bother encoding anything except japanese w/ subs but its necessary to play the tracks on some releases.
As for vobsub (and mmswitch for that matter), it really depends on your goal. If the pack is for other people (your friends) then you might want to include everything that they might run into.
Just thought I'd mention it. |
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earthdark
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 73
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2002 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Ah thanks. mmswitch looks good, I'll probably include it once I get around to locating it's dll/ax file. The purpose of the codec pack is to provide something more along the lines of a bare essentials codec pack as opposed to everything and the kitchen sink codec pack (a la Nimo). |
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2002 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Are there still enough flaky videos out there to warrent having DiVX Antifreeze installed? |
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2002 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Ooops hit submit too quickly.
to continue...
Are there still enough flaky videos out there to warrent having DiVX Antifreeze installed? If so, then it might be worth adding to the now-becoming-generic video pack. |
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earthdark
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2002 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, I think most encoders are smart enough to either use the anti-freeze settings in Nandub or to have people QA the encode before release so I'm not going to include an anti-freeze one. |
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Gorunova
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Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 318 Location: Burnaby, B.C., Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Common codecs/formats that should be in a codec pack? |
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earthdark wrote: | and few files ripped from WinDVD for mpeg2 viewing in WMP, and some directshow filters for the above files. |
How does one get MPEG2 viewing going in WMP (or better yet, ZoomPlayer)?
I used to be able to watch MPEG2 in WMP, though I couldn't seek, but for some reason it stopped working.
There seems to be quite a lack of codec support for MPEG2 on Windows. |
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zanson
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Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 41
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Common codecs/formats that should be in a codec pack? |
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Gorunova wrote: | earthdark wrote: | and few files ripped from WinDVD for mpeg2 viewing in WMP, and some directshow filters for the above files. |
How does one get MPEG2 viewing going in WMP (or better yet, ZoomPlayer)?
I used to be able to watch MPEG2 in WMP, though I couldn't seek, but for some reason it stopped working.
There seems to be quite a lack of codec support for MPEG2 on Windows. |
You install a software dvd player or you can get some free ones from doom9.org I think. WinDVD or PowerDVD install filters that will let you play them. |
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Gorunova
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Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 318 Location: Burnaby, B.C., Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Common codecs/formats that should be in a codec pack? |
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zanson wrote: | You install a software dvd player or you can get some free ones from doom9.org I think. WinDVD or PowerDVD install filters that will let you play them. |
Thanks. WinDVD never worked for me. I have PowerDVD installed, but it crashes the machine when I try to load an MPEG2 file.
I'll poke around doom9 to see what I can find.
Normally I would just convert the files to regular MPEG, but I'm receiving a LOT of MPEG2 files these days and I just can't spare the time to convert them. |
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xo Site Admin
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Joined: 09 Feb 2002 Posts: 466 Location: Los Angeles [comcast]
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I never tried the Windows version, but the Videolan client was a cool solution for MPEG2 playback on the Mac.
http://videolan.org/vlc/
-xo |
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zanson
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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xo wrote: | I never tried the Windows version, but the Videolan client was a cool solution for MPEG2 playback on the Mac.
http://videolan.org/vlc/
-xo |
xo (or anyone else) do you know a way to play SVCD files on mac os x (powerbook)? As in burned svcd's not svcd sized mpeg2's? I keep seeing stuff saying vlc should do it, but I haven't been able to get it to work, so I'm thinking that vlc just plays mpeg2, not actual svcds. When ever I try to play an actual svcd I get data read errors trying to access the files...
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xo Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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zanson wrote: |
xo (or anyone else) do you know a way to play SVCD files on mac os x (powerbook)? |
Hmm, I just downloaded it again (v0.5.3), launched it off the mounted dmg, went to File->Open Disc and hit the "VCD" radio button, then OK. Then hit the big Play button and it played without a hitch.
The device name it selected (the only choice) was /dev/rdisk1, the MRL filled in was vcd:///dev/rdisk1@1,1. This was a SVCD I made myself authored with vcdimager.
I tried playing the mpgs as files from the CD and I got a bunch of errors - Macs have never handled the MODE2/block sizes well.
You've had problems with more than one SVCD? Have you tried ripping the SVCD with vcdxrip and seeing if you can play the ripped mpgs?
-xo |
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superjaded
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 24
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, ffdshow-alpha can play pretty much anything you can throw at it. This includes anything MPEG4 (divx3+, xvid, ms mpeg4* etc), HuffyYUV(and Huffy in YV12 too, IIRC), MPEG1.. there's really not much it can't play.
You may also have to include "DivX audio" crap for the old encodes as well..
Also, I would hope that encoders know enough about encoding/decoding that they could install HuffyYUV/VFAPI themselves (it's cleaner to use avisynth+mpeg2dec anyway, IMO) rather than install useless things for people who just want to watch stuff.. so you might want to hold off on those.
EDIT: No Ogg Filters? |
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